Wednesday, November 30, 2011

If they "deserved to die" why not just send Jesus?

PZ Myers had a recent confrontation with a creationist at the Creation Ministries of the Ozarks in early November of 2011 that he details on his blog.

He recounts this exchange:

I was dismayed at one bit of conversation with Dr Rod Butterworth, head of the place. He was trying to explain how the bloody god of the Old Testament really wasn’t such a bad fellow after all.

“You don’t understand: all those people he had to kill, were horrible people. They deserved to be killed!”
I pointed out that his god, according to his myth, exterminated the entire population of the planet, except for 8 people. Was he really arguing that all of those people, even the babies, were all so wretchedly evil that they deserved death?
He replied that yes, they did, because they refused to worship god, and god as their creator had every right to do with them as he will.
This had me thinking back to my confirmation.

My instructor was the pastor of the church and young earth creationist who taught us that the Grand Canyon was created by the flood and not through millenniums of geological processes. I was taught that God had to destroy the world by the flood because all those people on the earth at that time were wicked and had to be destroyed --  except for Noah and his family of course. I was also taught that Jesus came a few short millennium later to redeem the world through his sacrifice on the cross.

And then the thought occurred to me back then, why didn’t God just send Jesus instead destroying the world in the flood? If people needed a savior, wouldn’t this be the most appropriate time? Weren't these the most  “wicked” people ever if anyone needed redeeming and saving it would have been them. No one would have been killed -- including babies and children. I mean, Jesus' sacrifice was suppose to be so significant that it could not have redeemed these antediluvian people? Christians believe that Jesus came to redeem humanity, you mean to tell me that Jesus only conditionally redeems? Apparently so, since Christians believe in the flood myth.

So I was taught that I should approve of God’s genocide and not question it.

Of course, it’s never taught to us that God committed genocide. It’s always taught that the creator of the universe, who engineered people, had no choice than to drown everyone in the world. His hands were tied and he had no other options. Except, he later came up with the Jesus option anyway.

Yet, this thought never seems to occur to believers of Genesis that God could have done something else other than genocide. They approve of God’s genocide and hold it up as righteous and inevitable, even though they believe that Jesus eventually came to redeem humanity’s sins at a later date anyway. And the God they worship is supposed to be all-knowing and has a plan for everything. So why not Jesus then, instead of a global genocidal flood? I can only conclude that God wanted genocide and to murder children and babies.

Since I had this thought many years ago in my confirmation class as child and with the other things that did not make sense to me in that class, I reasoned that Christianity is false and I did not want to be a Christian.

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Lakeland Supply I-94 Religious Display

You may have seen these signs on eastbound I-94 before. The owner of Lakeland Supply is an evangelical Christian who likes to proselytize to the passing commuter.

A few years ago, the Journal Sentinel even did a story on him.

I live now in Oconomowoc and have to commute to New Berlin everyday.

Well for the last few weeks he has posted a sign in another clueless attempt to demonstrate his faith. I thought I would write him a email expressing the ridiculousness of his latest attempt.

Here it is:
I am perplexed.

What do you hope to accomplish by posting the sign "Eternity. Smoking or Nonsmoking' off of eastbound I-94 in front of your building?

Is it your hope to convert non-Christians or to bolster the faith of those that already are? If you are attempting to either of these, you fail at the former and as for the later, so what?

Simply stated, you believe in a god that would torture unbelievers for eternity. This is the same god who you (probably) believe is omni-benevolent, that is, a being with an infinite capacity for goodness. The god you believe in can not be both infinitely merciful and punish infinitely, as both states are mutually exclusive. God is either omni-benevolent and a hell can not exist, or hell exists and god is not omni-benevolent. In fact, what you worship is an evil demon by your very own internal standards.

A message like that highlights your religion's inhumanity. It also demonstrates the basic barbarity of your religion that such a belief in a hell necessities.

A message like is nothing more than a stark threat, using fear as motivation. It also demonstrates the intellectual vacuity of your religion.

Since you subscribe to such a monstrous and inhumane doctrine as hell, I can only pity your basic lack of humanity. You apparently lack any form of human compassion.

Because of the twisted, backward reasoning which convinces you that such a message like is acceptable and even display-worthy, you are as evil as that god you worship.

You and your company I would never want to associate with.

I will await their reply and will post the results.

Monday, November 7, 2011

God Bless America

Last week, Republicans voted to re-affirm the nation's highly divisive motto "In God We Trust," replacing the more inclusive e pluribus unum.

We as a nation love to sing and state "God Bless America" at our sporting events and from our politicians mouths.

When we do, we think that this act of quasi-religious devotion will ingratiate us to the Christian god even more.

And what has all this praise done for us? Has it been successful?
More than 49 million Americans — even more than thought — live in poverty, new measure finds

In September, the government reported that a record 46.6 million Americans were living in poverty. But a new report released Monday by the Census Bureau using a more sophisticated method to measure poverty rates has found that the true figure is even higher: 49.1 million, or 16 percent of all Americans.
Nearly 50 million Americans live in poverty. Is this evidence that God has blessed America? Or is this evidence that God does not bless America and that he is either incapable, or unwillingly, of providing for a country that earnestly believes that he protects them?

God sure has really blessed America! If this is his blessing, make him please stop.

It is almost like he doesn't exist to hear our country's fervent prayers.

Keep it up faithful! You are doing a wonderful job!